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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:53 am    Post subject: If you were President Reply with quote

Now the elections are almost here. I would be interested to know how people would run things in the United States if they were elected to be the President.

Anyone is welcome to reply, Europeans, those that are too young to vote, those ineligible to vote due to a felony conviction, or even those who are going to vote.

Just a reminder, this is not to be confused with the pet peeve thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. The myriad of changes I would make. I would need a 100-year term.

First and foremost, I would immediately improve America 1,000% by giving everyone everywhere a test, designed by me, that would determine just how skilled they are at driving a vehicle. Anyone who fails would have to GET OFF OF MY ROADS. Very Happy

Aside from that, I would make it a priority of my administration to develop solid alternatives to fossil fuels. I don't see any other long-term issue that is more important right now.

So... better drivers and HUGE reductions in America's carbon footprint. That's a start.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were president there would be free ice cream for everyone, and so far as the rest of the presidential stuff - this country would be screwed. But hey, free ice cream!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A return to the Colonial era of days long gone, where top hats and sideburns were freely worn!

Well, not really, but still...

Just general fixer-uppers, less oil dependancy, easy on the pollution, that kind of thing.

Oh, I'd orchestrate a rebellion and take control as Emperor...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Overthrow the CIA/other group of rich and powerful people controlling the world.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all seriousness... I would probably get assassinated for the things I would do... Even though they would bring the country's pride back.

I would send battalions of troops off to our greatest enemies, and have them whoop their butts. I would take away tax spending to healthcare, saving sick whales, ect. and use them to strengthen our military. If some hobo came to the government and was asking for money because he idiotically jumped off a balcony and broke his leg, I would have the government respond and tell him to get a job once he is able to walk again.

Seriously, that is how America needs to be ran.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would try to restore the economy in anyway possible, including (BAD JOKE ALERT!!!) hiring Robin Hood to rob Wall St. After the economy is dandy, I would proceed to lock up my worst enemies, proclaim a crisis, abolish the Congress and Courts, and do what ever I want to do, including magnifying the old Taco Bell free taco promo to occur every other Friday. Then, I would continue to raise taxes, invest in everything I want to, and then brutally crush any insurrection using my special battalion of Shock Troops.
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EDIT: Oh, yeah, reducing America's carbon footprint would be good too...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all know I would probably go made with power, turn the government into an empire/dicatorship-type governement and attempt to rule the world.
But I will be honest with everything Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Joe wrote:
In all seriousness... I would probably get assassinated for the things I would do... Even though they would bring the country's pride back.

I would send battalions of troops off to our greatest enemies, and have them whoop their butts. I would take away tax spending to healthcare, saving sick whales, ect. and use them to strengthen our military. If some hobo came to the government and was asking for money because he idiotically jumped off a balcony and broke his leg, I would have the government respond and tell him to get a job once he is able to walk again.

Seriously, that is how America needs to be ran.


Really, you think all people who need free health care are hobos? Too many people is going bankrupt paying for health care, and it's basically unheard-of in first-world countries other than USA. Hell if I broke my leg without medicare I will get serious *ed up. I would be extremely unlikely to recover from such health issue.

In fact that you used an idiotic hobo as a example shows your serious bias on this. Are you well-off or part of well-off family?

As of war with too many fronts, ask Germany how well it went for them.

Also, what America pride? We did so many things wrong too, such as ending slavery so much later, joining world wars so late, etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Joe wrote:
In all seriousness... I would probably get assassinated for the things I would do... Even though they would bring the country's pride back.

I would send battalions of troops off to our greatest enemies, and have them whoop their butts. I would take away tax spending to healthcare, saving sick whales, ect. and use them to strengthen our military. If some hobo came to the government and was asking for money because he idiotically jumped off a balcony and broke his leg, I would have the government respond and tell him to get a job once he is able to walk again.

Seriously, that is how America needs to be ran.


You couldn't bring back the pride of a country by forcing people into the military. In fact, I'd think the only way to bring pride back would be by creating some sort of pseudo-nazi regime, which would kill any and all future pride, and doom america to be chained to several handlers like a beaten dog.

The reason we might be seen as not having much pride is because of the stupid things we get involved in. Vietnam and Iraq are two huge examples. I had plenty of pride when we went into Afghanistan, and if I needed to be drafted to fight in Afghanistan, I would've done it gladly. I agreed with that fight. Heck, I may have supported Bush beyond that.

And then there's always Yoda's view, where "wars not make one great."
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jedi Joe wrote:
In all seriousness... I would probably get assassinated for the things I would do... Even though they would bring the country's pride back.

I would send battalions of troops off to our greatest enemies, and have them whoop their butts. I would take away tax spending to healthcare, saving sick whales, ect. and use them to strengthen our military. If some hobo came to the government and was asking for money because he idiotically jumped off a balcony and broke his leg, I would have the government respond and tell him to get a job once he is able to walk again.

Seriously, that is how America needs to be ran.


Yeah, I would probably assassinate you. Are you a "real American"? Are you anti-socialist, and do you think that healthcare and Liberalism will destroy America? Whoop innocent Muslim civilians to "restore American pride"? Look at what Bush has done; whooped civilians, and how high is American pride? So high that Americans are made fun of in Canada as being stupid racists who, given a problem, declare war with no research done.

Does a Hobo have no less of a right to be healed of an injury than a rich man? In Canada he has the same right, and is Canada burned in effigy?

You Americans call the USA the "land of opportunity", yet if a man who's life can only get better asks for opportunity and he is rejected and told to deal with his problem and get a job.


Anyway, I wouldn't be president. Why? I'd get no votes. Because if I were American, I would create the

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd operate off a strong pro-pie position while serving as a corporate shill to Big Marie Calendar instead of Big Oil or anything like that.

Oh, and establish a comprehensive system of ground-level societal changes to try and equalize the class/sex/race/power strata within America while also moving to a more secular America.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure most of you know the history of these types of topics by now. Believe we'll be keeping an eye on this.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, let's keep this civil.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd make it mandatory that everyone go through a history and civics class, and learn about exactly how important our rights are, how extensive they are, and how absolutely stupid the vast majority of people are about them. Given that most people seem to think that "American Freedom" means a fascist theocracy where repression and no freedom of speech are the norm, it might be a good thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dWhisper wrote:
I'd make it mandatory that everyone go through a history and civics class, and learn about exactly how important our rights are, how extensive they are, and how absolutely stupid the vast majority of people are about them. Given that most people seem to think that "American Freedom" means a fascist theocracy where repression and no freedom of speech are the norm, it might be a good thing.


Which one of us is going to be Pres and whose going to be the Veep?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that can be decided by a coin-flip during the inauguration...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I'm glad to see that no one would let the power go to their heads. Neutral

So far the topics of importance are enviroment, health care, hunger, and total domination. Interesting. Don, I'm surprised you went with ice cream I would have guessed you would go with burgers. Laughing Personally, the kids can have ice cream. I want beer, and good beer at that. Those who don't like beer...you'll get some peanuts. Wink

Just a word of warning to all of the megalomaniacs out there; rarely do dictators out live their reign. Julius, Benito, Adolph and Suddam come to mind. Joe, I hate to break the news to you, but that kind of rhetoric has already been played out. I believe the pride of this country came from defeating that point of view some 60 years ago.

Edit: I hope that people outside of the United States realize that not all of us think this country is the master of you all. Just George Bush and Dick Chaney really. Laughing

Edit#2: dW that is the best suggestion so far. There is no quicker way to lose one's freedoms than to abuse or take them for granted. I would vote for that... if i knew I would get a beer with my vote.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dWhisper wrote:
I'd make it mandatory that everyone go through a history and civics class, and learn about exactly how important our rights are, how extensive they are, and how absolutely stupid the vast majority of people are about them. Given that most people seem to think that "American Freedom" means a fascist theocracy where repression and no freedom of speech are the norm, it might be a good thing.


That and economic and world politics to all aspiring politicians. Smile

I would also create serious study on universal health care, design and build such thing. To be frank, lack of such in USA is a serious embarrassing thing for me. Doesn't USA care of its citizen?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This country is in dire need of universal health care. The current system was ok when times were good, but now that so many people are losing jobs that the number of uninsured folks is a crying shame. I wouldn’t waste money on studies though. I would check to see which nation has the best form of care and use that as a starting point.

The models that seem to fall short are the British system and on the other extreme I would say Japan. Probably the best systems would be the way the Germans and the Finnish chose to run their health care. Admittedly, I’m not very familiar with the health care system in Canada, but I think they tend to fall in the middle of the pack.

I’m just thankful to have insurance through my wife's work. My son had a traumatic birth, and had to spend 11 days in NICU. I got a statement (glad it wasn’t a bill) from the hospital for my son’s stay-$165,000. Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepatient wrote:
I want beer, and good beer at that. Those who don't like beer...you'll get some peanuts. Wink
What if you're a teetotaler who's alergic to nuts?
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Just a word of warning to all of the megalomaniacs out there; rarely do dictators out live their reign. Julius, Benito, Adolph and Suddam come to mind.
Who's Suddam? I know Caesar, Mussolini, and Hitler, but I don't know of any Suddam. Wink


Anyway, if I were president, the first thing I would do is make the VP a position that's something other than a death watch. Maybe something involving an evil version of the president.

Also: I'd make ketchup a vegetable.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need for world politics, just some world history. Teach actual history and you can get people to realize that while America is a great place to live, it is not the greatest country in the world (no single country is), and most certainly isn't the perfect shining beacon of morality all the "patriots" seem to think it is.

Case in point on the dictators... many of the more modern ones we've been directly responsible for putting there, and equally responsible for toppling them. Take Castro in Cuba, for example. Or the fact that Iran has every reason to hate us (given that we toppled their democratically elected government to instill our own West-loving dictatorship, which itself was toppled and replaced with a repressive theocracy).

And while health-care is an important thing, reforms to the entire legislation and regulation of the health care industry is the first step. My argument for health care begins and ends with America's place in statistics. We are #1 in GDP per capita (by a very wide margin, though China is catching up with us), #32 in health care, and last in infant mortality rates in the "developed" world. That alone says that the whole system is busted. But stamping a health care plan on it is not the answer. In-depth study into the system and its problems is.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Winko wrote:
Also: I'd make ketchup a vegetable.

It already is, despite anything that may or may not be written down.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CommanderJake wrote:
Winko wrote:
Also: I'd make ketchup a vegetable.

It already is, despite anything that may or may not be written down.


Actually, catsup would fall under the fruit category regardless of what you type. Winko. You would get… a bottle of catsup.

dW I completely agree with you on the on many modern dictatorships, but don’t forget terrorism. The U.S. Trained Usama Binladen during the Afghan War with the former Soviet Union. I think it is safe to say that was a plan that came back to haunt us. There the other direction too. Remember Manuel Noriega? We put him in place and later went in and removed him, due to his side business of cocaine. Which ironically, the U.S. was his biggest customer. Our leaders tend to do business with lowest common denominator. I wonder if we learned this type of behavior when we had to deal with Stalin during WWII.

Does anybody know if this is true? When I saw the movie The Falcon and the Snowman they bring up an interesting statistic. More than half of the nations of the world have had there governments “picked” by our government. That just seems like a poke in the eye to other nation. “You can enjoy democracy…if we let you.”
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepatient wrote:
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Winko wrote:
Also: I'd make ketchup a vegetable.

It already is, despite anything that may or may not be written down.


Actually, catsup would fall under the fruit category regardless of what you type. Winko. You would get… a bottle of catsup.
If you mean that it would be a fruit due to the fact that it's derived from tomatoes, then you'd technically be correct, as tomatoes are biologically a fruit. But tomatoes are classified by the government as a vegetable for all purposes of trade, including imports, exports, and domestic sales, as well as for federally mandated nutrition guidelines. Therefore, the ketchup would also be considered a vegetable.
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I'd suggest picking up the book "Lies My Teacher Told Me" to get a good idea of how many governments we've had our hands in. You'd be very, very surprised at how much America has messed up the world.

As for where we learned it? No, not from Stalin, who was crazy and paranoid, but in fact, from our own history. When it comes to terrorism, we, along with our allies in WWII, invented it. Prior to that war, battles were typically contained between armies and rulers. Yes, there were some things that came about when things were conquered, but still, we were the ones who started to target German and Japanese citizens because it would cause more terror among the populace and erode support for their governments. Things like carpet bombing Berlin or using Napalm on Tokyo because of the frequent use of wood and other "incideiary materials." We were trying to maximize civilian casualties.

We drew the template, and it's important for everyone to understand why some parts of the world hate us so much.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, is America really this bad as it seems after reading your statements?

Well, on topic: I would clean up with unions first. It can't be that everywhere is a big economics crisis, many people loose their jobs, but some unions demand 8% or more salary rises.
Then I would go against people who abuse the social system of the state. I know people who have rich parents but claimed themselves jobless between graduating in school and starting university and so got paid unemployment allowance. Or people who went to a health resort, paid by the health insurance, for making holidays.
And today we have the problems. Money is missing everywhere, health system can't (or do not want) pay anymore, so really ill people have to suffer or wait weeks for a doctor's appointment or such things.
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Wow, is America really this bad as it seems after reading your statements?

No, not really. But we do have issues, and we haven't seen a lot of movement on those issues, and that's making a lot of Americans unhappy.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Winko wrote:
...If you mean that it would be a fruit due to the fact that it's derived from tomatoes, then you'd technically be correct...
If you want to get technical, vegetables don't even exist. At least not scientifically. All "vegetables" are in some other defined group... roots, stalks, leafs, gourds, and even fruit (in the scientific version of the term, generally meaning the seed bearing pods on trees and vines). Fruit and Vegetables in the food industry are classifications - and tomatoes consistently fall in the latter.

Now, while ketchup (or however you prefer to spell it) is a tomato based product, it is not a tomato. It's a condiment containing more than just mushed up vegetables, thereby removing it from that category. If you want to start calling ketchup a vegetable, than you need to start relabeling everything to it's base ingredient too, which would just be ridiculous.
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Nonsense! By all means, classify peanut butter a legume.
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