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Olog Ambassadargh!

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Romaniargh!
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: "Savier" X-wing (updated - final) |
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See below for latest pictures.
I'm almost done with my entry here. It's still a WIP, so comments are appreciated. So here's a crocodile
Not really content with some details, but overall I think I managed to create a sleek, aggressive, powerful, and rebel-ish fighter. Inspired by all the rebel fleet, I took the engines (speed, strength) from the A-wing, sensors (greebling ) and shields (and color scheme ) from the Y-wing, S-foils, and sleekness from the original X-wing and firepower from the B-wing.
This workhorse of the rebel fleet has a revolutionary design, simply combining sheer strength, with nimbleness and precission . This precise model of the Savier has the purpose to take out any walkers or armored vehicles. Due to it's powerful ion cannon, it can take out any AT-AT with a precise shot.
Here she be:
full throttle
One intake, two engines ( not proud about the front part, the nose looks odd to me, but I have enough time to rebuild it until the deadline.
Yep, the nose deffanately has to be rebuilt
lots of room in there
Goodbye!
Side shot
The droid is built-in, that kinda gives each ship it's own individuality.
Sorry about the pilot, that's the only rebel pilot I've got.
Thanks for looking! I'll be updating with more pics after I fix some stuff on it.
P.S. almost forgot ... it's almost completely studless . _________________

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TsoAutTmo

Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Location: Hamburg Pities: The Fool on the Hill
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Nice, me likes.
i like how you did the color scheme. (Well, I also like everything else) Instead of taking the red/white color scheme of the X-Wing, you took the Y-Wing and made it more... fresh, for an X-Wing Evolution ship.
You're right, the nose does need some work. How about some SNOT to make it curvy-er? I also think the side of the area of the cockpit needs some work it seem a bit thin from the top.
But, I like evrything else. Can't wait to see the finished model! _________________ Brickshelf! Bricktacular! |
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ZombieSolo ... eats you all. [zMOD]

Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Location: between worlds
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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OK, first off I want to complain about the "studless" comment (and comments like this in general): Either it is, or it isn't... and either way there's no use in pointing it out. Don't worry about hiding them, because we all know they're there and unless it detracts from the look then no one cares. If it's a good model, people will like it, studs or no studs.
That being said, I love this. It's got a few rough spots, but the ship is very unique and will turn out beautiful with a few alterations. Simply put, this pic sold it. It's got a great mutant-hybrid vibe, and the color scheme calls me back to the Y-Wing more than the X while the shape sets it's origin straight.
Now, where to improve? You know where... the nose. Try to smooth it out with some different types of slopes, and fill the gaps in the fuselage. Maybe beef up the transition between the ship and the engines near the back too. All in all, you just have some cleaning up to do. The greebles look nice, and the whole shape is fantastic. Just take care of the front. _________________ BULLETIN ISSUED SATURDAY 01.31.2009 11:59:59PM PST. ATTENTION ALL CITIZENS: PLEASE READ THIS |
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kotorfan2000

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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This has to be my favorite entry so far! I love the new look you put into this, its just amazing. I also like all the details this has like in the engine section.
However, I do agree the nose has do be redone. |
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Mystery Machine

Joined: 30 May 2005 Location: hampshire,england
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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curse you!! i had this comp in the bag man
its pritty sweet, love the curved intake, bit the nose bit needs work and get a brickshelf,
but there is some funny crap in you gallery thing (I *bleep*IN LOVE COLOURING) ::D: ::D: _________________ I am like one sad, dog food eating, hippy
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Olog Ambassadargh!

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Romaniargh!
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Enryu Thanks for the compliments. I will rebuild the front end, there's no way I'm leaving it as it is.. I'm sometimes a perfectionist. just sometimes. the same goes for the sides next to the cockpit.
DonSolo I admit my comment was pointless, but IMO a studless ship shows some quality compared to a fully covered in studs ship.
But I'm really glad you like it. I knew it would win the hearts of some old school SW fans, with it's junker-ish and y-wing look. I planned it to make a mix of two or more ships, making each attribute visible in such a way as not to make the ship to confusing.
Already working on the new front.
kotorfan2000 Thanks a lot! the engine was the first thing I built, and from there on the rest of the ship... actually , at first I wanted to make it symmetrical, but didn't have enough parts for a second symilar engine, the same for the winged half.. but i like the final result.
Mystery Machine haha Don't worry man, don't be too competitive, you can never be sure who will win. I'm not looking for glory in this comp, It's just great it got me building again.
I already have a brickshelf, but I can't wait until the pics get approved . untill then ... get away from my photobucket gallery, you freak! private stuff in there , ya' know. (jk, I don't mind).
Thanks guys _________________
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Xiphos Systems

Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Location: Standing on a 1500 Megawatt Aperture Science Heavy-Duty Supercolliding Super Button
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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[whistles]
Wow, another awesome entry. I wish I had enough pieces here in the dorm, so I could try and enter something. Anyways, I love the way this looks, 'cept I think those wings should have some kind of actual function. Don't know what you could do apart from weaponry though...maybe add working airfoils or something. Just a thought. _________________
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bobthestormtrooper

Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Location: In ur MONITOR, attractin ur ATTENTION
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Wow! I can't say anything that hasn't been said before, but I won't be surprised when this makes it to the final rounds. Wow. _________________
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Enigma Lazy Hippy

Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Location: A little south of sanity...
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Let me be the pessimist.
The wings have no use. None. You need to find a way to put wings on it. Can I suggest maybe...making the gun so big that it balances the thing out? Or putting the wings below the gun on both sides?
The color scheme annoys me just a tad, the yellow...and the checkered thing in the back.
But..sadly..that's all I see wrong with the ship. I'm in love with that cockpit.
Way to go on a great ship!!
-Jordan _________________
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Battle Zombie Alita Undead!
Joined: 06 May 2005
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:24 am Post subject: |
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The intake is great but doesn't feel right without a seconde. Maybe two engines around the big gun with intakes. The wing design might be too simple and squarish.
Although concentrated, the one gun does not feel like adequate dogfight firepower. Unless it can maintain a repeating pulse beam, the scatter of the four x-wing cannons would seem to hit more. _________________
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Olog Ambassadargh!

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Romaniargh!
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:25 am Post subject: |
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The wings have the same purpose like on other fighters, they act like a cooling mechanism for the engines and gun, just like s-foils. Other than that, they are meant for athmosferic flight. I considered adding weaponry (so it gives the wings more purpose with the wide fire coverage) to the tips of the wings, but it looked way too confusing, it was just too much.
About the checkered plate, I might take it off, I'm not so keen about it either.
.. and what do you mean "sadly.. that's all I see wrong with the ship" ..it's not wrong enough?  _________________
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Olog Ambassadargh!

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Romaniargh!
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Small update (and double post, all in one):
Finished with two slightly different versions of the front end:
and the second version, which is a bit bulkier but still as sleek, I think I'm going to keep this one. there's a little inspiration from michaelearlwillard's speeder from the group project.
oh, I forgot to mention how the entire part where the wings are, has a slight motion turning the wings horizontally and vertically, as to make the ship able to land on it's landing gear.
The checkered flag is off.
I also used something similar to Moko's technique when I built the engine.
Thanks for the comments everyone!
oh, and Battle Angel Alita, I might even put some smaller cannons on the underside, but as I said, this is a Hoth/anti armor version of the fighter. I'm visualizing it being escorted by snowspeeders and taking out AT-ATs from a fair distance.
Edit: dammit, someone please warn me if the pics are too large and loading too slowly. _________________
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Mystery Machine

Joined: 30 May 2005 Location: hampshire,england
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: Re: "Savier" (contest entry) |
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| Olog wrote: |
| This precise model of the Savier has the purpose to take out any walkers or armored vehicles. Due to it's powerful ion cannon, it can take out any AT-AT with a precise shot. |
sorry but can I just say that that MOC descriptions that make them out as being almost indestructible with amazing fire power and super super fast speed , just gets on my nerves,
I know it’s all made up, but be realistic, it’s like playing Jedi’s with a 10 year old, that just won’t die, because,
“you missed”,
and “I’m so powerful with the force that I just can’t die”
“that doesn’t matter, cos iv got a robot hand” ECT,
You just sorta get bored and let the kid win, because there’s no way that he is ever going to die
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its looking really good, but i dont like the new nose, can you link me to your gallery, cos im curious _________________ I am like one sad, dog food eating, hippy
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Olog Ambassadargh!

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Romaniargh!
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:19 am Post subject: |
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No, you misunderstood me I never said anything like that. Infact, I'm stating that it's a specialized weapon against walkers... not everything else. So that means I'm limiting it to one certain purpose. That could mean that it's useless against most other craft. Just like in strategy games, where every unit has it's own purpose (resistance/attack).
Anyway, I thought the contest was called "x-wing evolution", not create a "modest x-wing"
The pics are in the same gallery as the first pics, in the photobucket album. _________________
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Mystery Machine

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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: |
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whew.....:D i feel much better now.
yeah but you cant say x-evo that has anything you could ever want and nothing can kill it
cos it jsut stupid, its not just you, its across the board , i posted it here just cos i like you  _________________ I am like one sad, dog food eating, hippy
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Olog Ambassadargh!

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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: |
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awww , I like you to
| Mystery Machine wrote: |
yeah but you cant say x-evo that has anything you could ever want and nothing can kill it
cos it jsut stupid, its not just you... |
I thought we just cleared that up. Please stop making pointless comments. _________________
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Zombie Hawk Undead!

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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:55 am Post subject: |
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I love it! It has a unique shape only a Star Wars ship could have! _________________ My Forum My deviantART My Brickshelf
Zombies? Seriously, why the stupidity? I want my avatar back. |
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Memory

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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:27 am Post subject: |
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It's coming along quite nicely; perhaps you should stick a 2x2 plate behind the wedge at the front to cover up the hinge? _________________ GOOD MORNING JON. |
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Mystery Machine

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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| Olog wrote: |
| Please stop making pointless comments. |
Would an apology count as a pointless post? _________________ I am like one sad, dog food eating, hippy
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ZombieGIR Destroyed!

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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: |
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That looks great! _________________
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Enigma Lazy Hippy

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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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What I meant was, you could put the gun on the opposite side so it balances out the ship. With wings on one side and a heavy gun on the other, it would probably keep it more level.
-Jordan _________________
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DestructiveZombie Undead!

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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Wow I Really like the looks of this, very sleak and techincal looking. I like it alot. I wouldnt be suprised if this is one of the top entries. It also has a very interesting and different non-symetrical design to it. And a very nice use of odd pieces like the battle droids bodies.
My only real problem is the nose. The rest of the ship has alot of parts that are very smooth , but the nose is very boxy. It would probably be very hard, but I think it would look Really good if you Somehow made this more smooth looking. Or atleast filling in the gaps in them. But not a Huge deal. _________________
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Battle Zombie Alita Undead!
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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The second front is nicer, but I don't like seeing so much of the gap from the hinge. _________________
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TurkGuy19 Anime Figure Flickr Floodr

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Location: Planet Arus
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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This isnt bad, but for an evolution of the X-Wing, I dont think it fits. It looks way to underpowered compared to the X-Wing and the ARC-170.
But, as a MOC standing on its own, it is very creative and well executed. _________________
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Olog Ambassadargh!

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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Thank you everyone who commented, complimented or just said something. I'm really taking into consideration some advices, but I just wanted to clear something up, regarding the overall shape.. it is not going to change, I done that on purpose, I personally love everything about this ship (except for what I don't like ). DonSolo understood exactly what I wanted to express with this, a subtle melange of all the rebel ships, a Hybrid, a symbolic weapon. It may be disproportioned, or asymmetric, but come on, what Rebel ship isn't ? I admit there are some rough spots and I will be working on that nose, it's giving me a hard time.
Turkguy: I can't really agree there, I don't mean to be a jerk , I'm just justifying something. If my ship looks underpowered, and not worthy to be called an evolution x-wing... I guess that your comment could relate to absolutely all the other contest entries. Even it's size, being smaller than the original x-wing, (but still not falling into the A-wing category) can be a benefit, making it harder to get hit by enemy fire. I agree with Mystery Machine, it doesn't have to be a god-mode-like ship. _________________
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keds

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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:43 am Post subject: |
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In the interest of helping with your 'nose job', I have a couple of questions.
Is a bulge in the nose area important to the look of the ship or could it just come to a flat point?
If a bulge is important, can it extend in all directions? |
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Olog Ambassadargh!

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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: |
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I'm currently experimenting with more methods of improving the "nose". I'm trying to keep a recognizable image of the x-wing, so I want to make the nose look like the x-wing's, but at the same time it needs to have an aggressive image. So yes to both your questions . I will come up with something. Thanks! _________________
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TurkGuy19 Anime Figure Flickr Floodr

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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| Olog wrote: |
| Turkguy: I can't really agree there, I don't mean to be a jerk , I'm just justifying something. If my ship looks underpowered, and not worthy to be called an evolution x-wing... I guess that your comment could relate to absolutely all the other contest entries. Even it's size, being smaller than the original x-wing, (but still not falling into the A-wing category) can be a benefit, making it harder to get hit by enemy fire. I agree with Mystery Machine, it doesn't have to be a god-mode-like ship. |
In all reality, a lot of the contest entries, in my opinion, don't really fit into an ARC-170, X-Wing evolutionary path, so your right, my comment can relate to most of the entries.
I never said it had to be a god-like-mode creation, or that it had to be larger, or that being large was a must. I just said it looked under powered compared to the X-wing and the ARC-170. But of course, I'm not saying the creation itself isn't good, I think it is very creative and well executed (like I said before). Like I did before, I just gave you my opinion, and I'm sorry it wasn't what you wanted to hear. _________________
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Olog Ambassadargh!

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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Aaaaaaaaand I'm finally done , after a lot of time spent on minor modifications.
I'm finally happy with the nose. Added some minor greebling near that part, added the tube/thing between the engine and cockpit. My camera ran out of battery before I could take a pic of the ship standing on it's landing gear, but I promise you that those look great. I also made the interior a lot more spacey, also I made the headrest using Mike's BrickFA technique .
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Joedward Hoover

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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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First I'd like to apologise for not comenting sooner on how totaly awesome and fantastic that is
Second, you have my vote. The newest incarnation rocks with just one exception, though to be honest, most sets are guilty of that. The holes around the cocpit bug me, but it's still brilliant. _________________
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